English Saw

Discussion in 'Forum: Saw Identification and Discussion' started by Boyd R., Apr 10, 2018.

  1. Boyd R.

    Boyd R. New Member

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    Hi all
    I found a hand saw in an antique mall which is a little unusual ( at least to me).The saw has a 26 1/2 inch blade, 4 PPI and has a Wilson Hawksworth AND Moss stamp. These are the only marks on the saw. It has a London style handle with 4 split nuts, no medallion, although there is a 1 & 1/4 inch circle scribed into the handle butted up against one of the screw nuts. I capitalized the AND since that is the way it is stamped on the blade. I am going to have to learn how to post pictures because I know that makes quite a difference, maybe I can get my grand-daughter to show me.
    Boyd R.
     
  2. Araldite

    Araldite Active Member

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    Hi Boyd,
    Check BSSM and Tweedsdale Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Mfgs.. Wilson and Hawksworth were started in 1825 and were cutlers. Around 1829 Moss joined as the US sales representative and became a partner, at which time his name was added, possibly just for the American market. Ellison joined in 1846 and the name changed to Wilson, Hawksworth & Ellison. Moss left in 1853. Mine is a 10" tenon saw and also only has the three names marked. Saws apparently were always factored.

    Nice find; you don't see them very often.

    Vince
     
  3. ray

    ray Administrator Staff Member

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  4. Boyd R.

    Boyd R. New Member

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    IMG_0767 (2).JPG IMG_0770 (2).JPG IMG_0846 (2).JPG IMG_0848 (2).JPG IMG_0853.JPG IMG_0854.JPG IMG_0857.JPG IMG_0767 (2).JPG IMG_0770 (2).JPG IMG_0846 (2).JPG IMG_0848 (2).JPG IMG_0853.JPG IMG_0854.JPG IMG_0857.JPG IMG_0767 (2).JPG IMG_0770 (2).JPG IMG_0846 (2).JPG IMG_0848 (2).JPG IMG_0853.JPG IMG_0854.JPG IMG_0857.JPG Well I am trying for the first time to post pictures, so here goes. This is the Wilson Hawksworth and Moss saw that I posted earlier. It is rough and is pretty well as I found it. Hope this works.
    Boyd R.
     
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  5. Joe S

    Joe S Most Valued Member

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    Hey Boyd
    A lovely example of a 1840s saw that hasn't really been messed with other than making it functional. The circle might have been someone making their mark with a compass for ownership purposes. The "x" in front of that might also have been for this purpose. I wouldn't think it has any other function. Thanks for taking the effort to share with us.
    enjoy
    Joe S.
     
  6. summerfi

    summerfi Most Valued Member

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    Hi all,
    It is interesting that this saw incorporates the word "AND" rather than an ampersand. Are there other known examples of this?

    Bob