R Sorby German Steel

Discussion in 'Forum: Saw Identification and Discussion' started by fred0325, May 7, 2016.

  1. fred0325

    fred0325 Most Valued Member

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    Hello all,

    I am a little lost as to the age of this saw. BSSM has a mark similar to this one on a handsaw that is dated about 1840, but the similarity probably has as much to do with the corrosion patterns of the marks as the marks themselves.

    I don't remember seeing a "London flat" on a Sorby backsaw before, but perhaps that is just me taking very little notice of the brand as Sorbys are ten-a-penny up here in Scotland.

    As for "German Steel", it could indicate an early saw, a late saw or anywhere in between.

    Judging by the depth of blade, this saw has not had an enormous amount of use and that throws a spanner in the works for me as it is very atypical of the saws that I normally handle.

    If pushed, I would have to go for 3rd quarter of the 19th century (or later) on handle size and detail alone.

    I do, however stand to be corrected.

    Fred
     

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  2. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Hi Fred,

    That is a lovely saw! >insert jealous emoji<
    I have an 1830ish Sorby tenon with a "London Flat" similar to yours.
    Definitely a candidate for using with that depth of blade, a lovely rare find & thanks for sharing...:)

    Regards

    Mari
     
  3. fred0325

    fred0325 Most Valued Member

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    Hi Mari,

    Is there any chance of an image of your saw for comparison?

    Fred
     
  4. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Here you go Fred...:)
    It's on an BB 18" tenon saw, around 1830s, cast.steel.
    Mari
     

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  5. fred0325

    fred0325 Most Valued Member

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    Thanks for that Mari,

    It is so helpful. The handles have similarities, but yours is proportionally much larger and has what I describe as "fuller cheeks" than mine does. Yours also has a chamfered back and just "looks" like an 1820's/30's saw.
    It also has a fair amount of blade left for such an early saw.

    I often wonder what such saws have been doing for the last 180 odd years. They must have had very long rest periods in between working.

    A lovely saw, and brass backed as well.

    Fred
     
  6. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Thanks Fred, I love the nose on yours & would love to see a close up if possible please of the arris to the timber on the top, is it stepped or just flat?
    Also the low lines of stamps look fantastic on yours- you have a lovely lovely backsaw there.

    Regards

    Mari
     
  7. fred0325

    fred0325 Most Valued Member

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    Hi Mari,

    Some photo's of the handle. The only real blemish is the chunk taken out just in front of the top screw, but I can live with that.

    Fred
     

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  8. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Wow, it's gorgeous, personally I like the simple bevel / arris on the nose of early saws like yours, the damage doesn't bother me either- for a 180 year old saw it carries itself well & the scars are the journey of its life....:)
    The top of the handle is crisp- it's hardly been used, thanks for sharing Fred.

    Regards

    Mari