Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield

Discussion in 'Saw Makers Forum' started by rtleach, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. rtleach

    rtleach Member

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    Hi Folks

    I\'m new to this site but not new to woodworking. I picked up an 8\" W. Tyzack Sons & Turner dovetail saw off of ebay for 19.99. its my first saw restoration. I plan on using her for cutting dovetails and tenons. One thing I noticed is that the blade slot is not perfectly parallel to the handle. It is either intended to be that way or is a sign of poor craftsmenship. However, new to saw restoration I have no idea. All my other saws the blades are perfectly parallel with the handles.

    the teeth are 20ppi. For Dovetails should I recut them as rip teeth and not crosscut?

    Also, is this a nice saw or did I just blow $20! :unsure:

    Thanks

    Robert [​IMG]
     
  2. ray

    ray Administrator Staff Member

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    Hi Robert,

    That will make a nice little dovetail saw, it might be a bit short
    for tenons.

    If the handle isn\'t in line with the blade, that might be a problem,
    can you post a picture showing the problem.

    Dovetail saws are always sharpened rip.

    BTW $20 is a bargain!

    Regards Ray
     
  3. rtleach

    rtleach Member

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    Hey Ray, thanks a million for answering my questions. Here is pic of the slot. it goes from Left Top to Right Bottom.

    Is this normal? OR is this poor productoin?
     
  4. rtleach

    rtleach Member

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    Heres the image . . .
     
  5. rtleach

    rtleach Member

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    One more time! [​IMG]
     
  6. ray

    ray Administrator Staff Member

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    Hi Robert,

    Outch...I see what you mean! that has the look of a manufacturing defect.

    I think it might be time to start thinking about a new handle, there are
    a number of good tutorials on handle making. (I still haven\'t got mine written up yet)

    Here are a few..

    Leif Hansen (aka Norse Woodsmith) has a great article here.. http://www.norsewoodsmith.com/node/68
    Alice Frampton (aka Alf) http://www.leevalley.com/newsletters/Woodworking/1/5/article3.htm
    Tim Hoff http://www.cianperez.com/Wood/WoodDocs/Wood_How_To/INDEX_How_To_pages/TimHoff_MakingSawHandles.htm
    Phillsville http://www.philsville.co.uk/sawhandles.htm
    Mike Wenzloff http://wenzloffandsons.com/saws/kits/index.html (there was another by Mike but I can\'t see it just now)
    Pedder http://www.woodworking.de/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/read/25286

    In the one by Alice Frampton, she shows how to get an accurate center line by clamping a saw horizontally
    to the bench.

    For the template, you can download one that you like from the gallery http://www.backsaw.net/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=7
    Don\'t forget to resize it to suit your hand size.

    Let me know how it goes, preferably with a few pictures.

    Regards
    Ray
     
  7. pedder

    pedder Most Valued Member

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    Hi Robert,

    this is exactly the first saw I rehandled. B)

    [​IMG]

    You\'ll have to be very carefully, when you
    cut the slot for the blade because it is really thin.

    Before rehandling I would cut some tests. The question is not if the saw is straight but if it cuts straight. (Wich is sometimes not the same thing.)

    BTW:

    Ray,

    Sawmaker Tim Hoffman has now his own blog:

    http://www.sprucemill.blogspot.com/

    There you\'ll find his articles about blade and handle making, too.

    Cheers
    Pedder
     
  8. pedder

    pedder Most Valued Member

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    :blush:
    :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :unsure: :S
     
  9. rtleach

    rtleach Member

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    Wow, Ray, thanks for the resources. :woohoo: Well, I feel gipped by spending $20 for this saw but the new handles looks like a fun winter project.

    I suspected that it was faulty and not some cool custom feature for leftys.

    Thanks again,

    Robert