Edward Taylor Backsaw with Unusual Brass Fasteners

Discussion in 'Forum: Saw Identification and Discussion' started by Bancroft3, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. Bancroft3

    Bancroft3 Member

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    Edward Taylor Saw 017.JPG Edward Taylor Saw 019.JPG Edward Taylor Saw 020.JPG Edward Taylor Saw 021.JPG Edward Taylor Saw 022.JPG Edward Taylor Saw 023.JPG Edward Taylor Saw 025.JPG A couple of weeks ago I came upon a big pile of neglected, orphaned and very rusty saws (about 60 of them). Going through them I found 3 old ones -- 2 old Disstons and the oldest, this 16" Edward Taylor backsaw. It has the most unusual brass fasteners (saw-nuts). Has anyone ever seen a saw with fasteners like these? Any opinions as to whether they came with the saw when it was made, or whether they were an addition later in the saw's life?
    Brian
     
  2. wiktor48

    wiktor48 Most Valued Member

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    I see one proper screw with split nut and one looks like replacement screw.
     
  3. fred0325

    fred0325 Most Valued Member

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    Hi,

    BSSM has two Edward Taylors, both from Sheffield. One of them he has from 1828 to 1837 and the other one that he doesn't have dates for, but does have a backsaw which he dates around 1900. Yours, I suspect will be the circa 1900 one if either. Both have an address of Carver Street, Sheffield.

    On looking at the mark on yours, there may have been a word beneath the name and which has corroded away, but if it is a saw with a name only, then it is possible that it is a brand of a larger maker.

    The handle, to me at least, has a fascinating shape. It has a cheek profile that I cannot remember seeing before and were it not for the lack of a lamb's tongue, it could have been quite early.

    But as it stands, I am inclined to go with BSSM at circa 1900, possibly a little bit later. Providing, of course, that it is a British saw.

    Wiktor is spot on with the screws. The bottom one looks original, and the top looks to be alien to the saw. Indicated somewhat by the split in the handle through the fastening hole in the wood.

    The top nut looks almost like a modern shear-head nut. If it isn't then I don't know how you would grip either side in order to tighten it.

    Fred
     
  4. Bancroft3

    Bancroft3 Member

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    Wicktor and Fred,

    Thank you for your excellent comments and expertise. Fred, you're right on -- after looking closely at the name with a magnifying glass, I detected the words "cast steel" directly below "Edward Taylor". I guess the saw isn't nearly as old as I initially thought. The one split-nut seems original but the top nut is quite strange. And, you're correct, there is no obvious way to tighten, or loosen it. Looks kind of neat though -- like the saw has frog eyes.

    Brian