A plea for help to those assembled herein: I would very much like to know what this de-handled carcase of a saw looked like when new-made. It has been treated unkindly; not by me. Material & condition: I believe the 13 ½" sawplate to be original; it was made of 20-thou stuff, & is toothed at 11 tpi. It is plurally buckled & re-buckled at the toothline, tho' firmly & straightly clasped by the back. The 13 ½" brass back tapers evenly in height by ¼" . . . . from 7/8" to 5/8". It is folded/formed from 1/8" stuff & is noticeably wedge-shaped in cross-section; emphasised by its lower edge being chamfered, then (outside the mortice) rounded. It tapers slightly - by a trifle over 1/32" - in breadth, back to nose. The nose is closed. Geometry: In the large image the saw is laid out on an annotated board, sawplate between two vertical lines 13 ½" apart. With the nose of the sawplate vertical, the back & back of the sawplate are approx. aligned together & raked forward at approx. 5° The original cant appears to be around ¼" (ghost) Handle: The original handle was fixed through the 2x larger, worn, & roughly vertical holes. A non-fitted replacement handle was fixed through the two smaller & roughly horizontal holes - those latter fixings were factory-made ½" flat saw-screws. A ghost outline on the sawplate - vaguer at the bottom due to the handle shifting approx 1/8" down as the holes ovalised - suggests a compact, plump boss, with an accelerating upward curve towards the back of the plate. Tho' less reliable an indicator; patina/dirt to the back suggests it was fitted full-depth into its original mortice. Pleas: What examples (other than the lovely Howel in this thread) can you recall of the back edge of a sawplate & its back together raked forwards by 5° or so? What examples can you recall of brass backs tapered both in height & (very slightly) in breadth . . . and with a rounded lower edge . . . . and with a closed nose? What examples can you recall of brass backs so wedge-shaped in cross-section? What examples of canted sash saws do you know of with plates originally formed of 20-thou stuff? NB: of modern makers of folded-back backsaws - stresses are different for slot-and-epoxy construction - all (but Gramercy) appear loathe to offer 20-thou sawplates with cutting-depths at the nose greater than around 2 ¼", or toothings coarser than around 13 tpi. . . . . and the Big One: what form - probably - was the handle? PS: thank you in advance . . . . if I have observations on the remains of this saw (I have been a cabinetmaker since the 1970s, and have a degree & so on in Archaeology), they are that it took an exhibition of craft to make; yet was functionally duff. Given the qualities of its steel, the plate was too thin for its toothing & depth. I will admit - on finding this saw - to being overcome with hazy Smith's Key curliques.