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Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hi Folks

I'm new to this site but not new to woodworking. I picked up an 8" W. Tyzack Sons & Turner dovetail saw off of ebay for 19.99. its my first saw restoration. I plan on using her for cutting dovetails and tenons. One thing I noticed is that the blade slot is not perfectly parallel to the handle. It is either intended to be that way or is a sign of poor craftsmenship. However, new to saw restoration I have no idea. All my other saws the blades are perfectly parallel with the handles.

the teeth are 20ppi. For Dovetails should I recut them as rip teeth and not crosscut?

Also, is this a nice saw or did I just blow $20!

Thanks

Robert
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#120
Re:Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hi Robert,

That will make a nice little dovetail saw, it might be a bit short
for tenons.

If the handle isn't in line with the blade, that might be a problem,
can you post a picture showing the problem.

Dovetail saws are always sharpened rip.

BTW $20 is a bargain!

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Re:Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hey Ray, thanks a million for answering my questions. Here is pic of the slot. it goes from Left Top to Right Bottom.

Is this normal? OR is this poor productoin?
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Heres the image . . .
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One more time!
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Re:Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hi Robert,

Outch...I see what you mean! that has the look of a manufacturing defect.

I think it might be time to start thinking about a new handle, there are
a number of good tutorials on handle making. (I still haven't got mine written up yet)

Here are a few..

Leif Hansen (aka Norse Woodsmith) has a great article here.. http://www.norsewoodsmith.com/node/68
Alice Frampton (aka Alf) http://www.leevalley.com/newsletters/Woodworking/1/5/article3.htm
Tim Hoff http://www.cianperez.com/Wood/WoodDocs/Wood_How_To/INDEX_How_To_pages/TimHoff_MakingSawHandles.htm
Phillsville http://www.philsville.co.uk/sawhandles.htm
Mike Wenzloff http://wenzloffandsons.com/saws/kits/index.html (there was another by Mike but I can't see it just now)
Pedder http://www.woodworking.de/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/read/25286

In the one by Alice Frampton, she shows how to get an accurate center line by clamping a saw horizontally
to the bench.

For the template, you can download one that you like from the gallery http://www.backsaw.net/cpg/thumbnails.php?album=7
Don't forget to resize it to suit your hand size.

Let me know how it goes, preferably with a few pictures.

Regards
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Re:Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hi Robert,

this is exactly the first saw I rehandled.



You'll have to be very carefully, when you
cut the slot for the blade because it is really thin.

Before rehandling I would cut some tests. The question is not if the saw is straight but if it cuts straight. (Wich is sometimes not the same thing.)

BTW:

Ray,

Sawmaker Tim Hoffman has now his own blog:

http://www.sprucemill.blogspot.com/

There you'll find his articles about blade and handle making, too.

Cheers
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Re:Question: W. Tyzack Sons & Turner Sheffield 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Wow, Ray, thanks for the resources. Well, I feel gipped by spending $20 for this saw but the new handles looks like a fun winter project.

I suspected that it was faulty and not some cool custom feature for leftys.

Thanks again,

Robert
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