Japanese Whale Back MaeBiki Rip Saw

Discussion in 'Forum: Saw Identification and Discussion' started by Underthedirt, May 2, 2018.

  1. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Hi everyone, I thought that I'd share a saw that I find rather interesting, it's a Japanese Mae-Biki / Whale Back Rip Saw.

    It has a 505mm long plate, with a graduated tooth line going from 4ppi down to a coarse 2ppi.

    I have four of these Mae Biki saws, but this one is different, due to it having the plate re toothed by way of having a "keyed in" section of plate joined into the old plate- I've not seen anything like this on a saw before.

    The plate has been hand beaten & you can see many of the hammer blows from forging, & the "new" piece of plate is very skilfully joined to the old & has what looks like a Hanko / signature mark.

    After having all that done to it the saw will clean up reasonably well, it would have been a tricky job to key that piece in & hammer it into place & lock it in & keep the saw straight & in tension, a very skilled saw smith I think!


    Regards


    Mari
     

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  2. David

    David Most Valued Member

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    Hi Mari,
    Is the repair actually overlapped and hammer welded with heat or is it simply keyed together in a tight fit and then hammered to wedge the keys in place? In any case I think it's an amazing repair. One wonders why it was thought necessary. I have lots of saws with make-do repairs, but they're all to the handles, not to the blade.

    David
     
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  3. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Hi David, thanks for your reply, looking at the dents in the metal along the keyed in joint, they look like it's been done when the metal is hot & been plastic, but how they hammered it together hot & then tempered it & then cooled it down without warping or cracking is pretty impressive I think.
    I do wonder why they just didn't cut the teeth into the remaining plate? Why did they need to key in that piece? Or perhaps was it made like this originally, with a cutting edge of special steel that they only had a little of? I don't know , it's very curious.

    Regards

    Mari
     
  4. ray

    ray Administrator Staff Member

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    Hi Mari,

    Thanks for posting a very interesting saw, I've never seen a saw plate joined like that, but then I've not really studied Japanese saws in any detail, my first thought is that it might be a way of extending the life of a saw, or it might be original to a new saw using different materials, perhaps a harder steel for the teeth and a different temper for the backing. Sort of like japanese swords used a harder steel blade forged welded to a softer flexible backing.

    Either way, it's an amazing demonstration of skill to forge weld with such expertise. Very impressive work.

    Ray
     
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  5. Underthedirt

    Underthedirt Most Valued Member

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    Thanks for your reply Ray, its a pretty cool piece of work indeed, I'd love to know the story behind it....:)

    Regards

    Mari