J Spring, Remscheid

Discussion in 'Forum: Saw Identification and Discussion' started by kiwi, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. kiwi

    kiwi Most Valued Member

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    This appears to be an economy grade saw, the plate is not taper ground, and the handle is a thin-ish 7/8" thick and has a simple London Flat design and an unfinished "lamb's tongue". But its unusual to find old german saws in this part of Ontario, and the auctioneer was having difficulty in getting a bid for his handful of saws so I had to help him out :)
    I haven't seen this medallion before (one for Bob's Saw Medallion Reference Guide). It's written in english, probably indicating it was specifically designed for export to North America, and reads; "J Spring, Remscheid, Germany" (with "N"s backwards), and a central logo that may be a bird (Pastahill; do you recognise it ? ).
    Google indicates that "J Spring" was a trademame of H Boker
    Age ? with its old style rivets I'm guessing about 1900 (WAG)
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  2. summerfi

    summerfi Most Valued Member

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    Nice find kiwi, and the medallion has been duly cataloged.

    Bob
     
  3. Pastahill

    Pastahill Member

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    Hello Kiwi, I never heared about j. Spring in Remscheid and my search also had no results. But i know H Boker. The company was founded from Gottfried Böker (1734-1795) in Remscheid. 1838 founded Gottliebs oldest son Hermann ( Henry) the trading company "H. Boker & Co" in New York.Two of the younger sons, Robert und Heinrich (1814-1873), take over the company from there father and founded 1854 a " Steamgrinding Company". At the world exhebition from 1851 they showed of with a lot of tool including " large handsaws absolutely equal to the english". There normal sign is Tree or two pelicans. They are still on the market , but now with knifes.
     
  4. kiwi

    kiwi Most Valued Member

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    Thanks Pastahill,

    I found a reference for German tool and blade makers and their trademarks, showing the name "J Spring" registered to Heinrich Boker (registration No 6761) http://www.archivingindustry.com/cutlers&toolmakers/cutlermarks-1.pdf

    "J. SPRING (1895, no. 6761): Heinrich Böker, Remscheid. Registry class: 9b. Style: roman"


    [The bird logo on my medallion does not seem to be listed in this reference, looks more like a woodcock (waldschnepfe) than a pelican]
     
  5. Pastahill

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    I think you are right, that this saw was an export saw, because they had an export company and branch in new york and mexico. Also is a sunken medallion not common for a german saw. If you look on Bobs medallion reverence you see that there are only a few with this typ of medallion. Specially the cheaper ones had only rivets, and i would also think that with 1900you are on the right side. A cheap one but a rarly, unusual saw.